AMD Ryzen VS Intel Coffee Lake : Let the fight Begin

How about trying to settle the AMD Ryzen vs Intel Coffee Lake debate? It’s was  a big year for the two processor makers Intel and AMD, with multiple chip releases . Today we choosed the latest Cpu  from AMD and Intel,  AMD Ryzen vs Intel Coffee Lake, for this battle which will be on 5 rounds.


Let The Fight Begin.


Round 1 : AMD Ryzen vs Intel Coffee Lake

AMD Ryzen

AMD Ryzen vs Intel Coffee Lake – pricing and availability

When it comes to the basic suggested retail price of the two new mainstream processor ranges it’s looking rather like a draw. I guess that’s to be expected with the two essentially going toe-to-toe on pricing.

The flagship Zen chip, the AMD Ryzen 1800X is something of an outlier, however, despite its relatively recent price drops. At over $400 it’s a good chunk more expensive than the supposedly $360 price of the top Coffee Lake, the Intel Core i7 8700K.

But, because there are so many different Ryzens in the AMD lineup, there’s a similarly eight-core, 16-thread Ryzen 7 1700X that retails for less than the Core i7 and comfortably beats it in any multi-threaded test you throw its way. And, like all Ryzen CPUs, it can be overclocked.

Things are a lot tighter down at the Ryzen 5 vs. Core i5 level, however, with both the AMD Ryzen 5 1600X and Intel Core i5 8600K being priced almost identically, around the $250 mark. But then there’s the sub-$200 Intel Core i5 8400 to content with, that’s a chip that offers the sort of general gaming performance to make AMD’s engineers blush.

There is Meatloaf-scale but coming here though, because you simply can’t reliably get hold of Intel’s Coffee Lake chips yet. The launch was pulled forward to such an extent that stock simply wasn’t available at launch, and is only just starting to trickle back into the channel… some for an unreasonably high price tag.

The end result? Well…


Round 2 : AMD Ryzen vs Intel Coffee Lake

AMD AM4 socket

AMD Ryzen vs Intel Coffee Lake – motherboards and chipsets

The motherboards and chipsets the processors drop into are as essential to the performance and success of a given platform as the CPUs themselves. After all, there’s no point having a great value chip if the only motherboard option you’ve got is the expensive one, right?

With that in mind, for Intel any Coffee Lake customer can use any chipset that they want, so long as it’s a Z370.

Yup, there is only a single, high-end choice for their 8th Gen Core CPUs, with the cheaper, less feature-rich H370 and B360 motherboards not scheduled to appear until early in the new year. Y’know, about when Coffee Lake was meant to launch.

That’s not a huge issue if you’re only looking at the K-series processors, with their hefty overclocking chops, but not if you’ve got your heart set on dropping the excellent Core i5 8400 into your new rig. That’s a straight six-core CPU that doesn’t need the fancy extras which make the Z370 boards the top end of the Coffee Lake stack.

On the AMD Ryzen side, however, there’s no such trouble. There’s a plethora of boards and chipsets to choose from, all available with different features, at different prices, but all with a single, unified socket.

The X370 and B350 motherboards offer impressive overclocking performance for every one of the multiplier-unlocked Ryzen CPUs, while the cheap, ultra-basic A320 boards are designed to purely offer great value and stock processor performance. The solitary AM4 socket they all use has been created to cater for not only this generation of AMD’s Ryzen chips, but also the mooted 12nm refresh expected next year. There’s also the not-so-small matter of the Raven Ridge APUs, whose desktop iterations will fit into the AM4 socket just as well, offering a combination of the Zen processor architecture and the AMD Vega GPU tech too.

Reckon the current LGA 1151 v2 socket is going to be sticking around for the next few generations of Intel CPUs? Not likely.


Round 3 : AMD Ryzen vs Intel Coffee Lake

Intel Core i7 8700K

AMD Ryzen vs Intel Coffee Lake – processor performance

AMD pulled the trigger on their Ryzen CPUs, once more betting that higher core counts were the future. They had tried that before with the failed Bulldozer CPUs, but this time around the world seems to be listening. It didn’t really matter how many threads AMD’s heavy plant-based Bulldozer, Piledrive, Steamroller, or Excavator chips could boast, they were essentially pretty rubbish.

Complain to someone who cares, FX owners…

But, given the powerful new architecture, software that’s starting to appreciate higher thread-counts, and the number of cores on offer with Ryzen, you’d maybe think that in straight CPU terms this would be a whitewash for AMD.

But hold on. The extra two cores of the eight-core Ryzen 7 chips, compared with the six-core Intel Core i7 CPUs, don’t always deliver that much extra performance, and the Coffee Lake silicon has a way around it when they do.

When you look at the Cinebench rendering tests the Ryzen 7 processors smash the Core i7s and the same goes for the Ryzen 5 against the Core i5 chips. But the X264 video encoding tests show them being a lot closer. And then there’s the classic Intel single-threaded performance, which is far in advance of the AMD competition.

In short, this bruising round’s a draw.


Round 4 : AMD Ryzen vs Intel Coffee Lake

Intel overclocking

AMD Ryzen vs Intel Coffee Lake – overclocking performance

This is where AMD starts to look a little leggy, like it’s started to punch itself out. Coffee Lake, on the other hand is only just getting into its stride, because it is one hell of an overclocking platform.

The argument is that this is why Intel needed a whole new socket and chipset for Coffee Lake. They had to nix backwards compatibility in order to deliver the increased level of power the two extra cores needed so they could be overclocked to the point they could take on the higher core-count Ryzens.

Once you’ve got the either of the Core i7 or Core i5 Coffee Lake chips running above 5GHz there is suddenly very little between them in multi-threaded applications and the single-threaded performance of the Intel silicon goes through the roof.

The flip side of this is that all of Ryzen’s chips can be overclocked while Intel still charge a pretty penny for the premium privilege. Unfortunately those Ryzen chips can’t actually be overclocked very much…


Round 5 : AMD Ryzen vs Intel Coffee Lake

Intel Core i5 8400

AMD Ryzen vs Intel Coffee Lake – gaming performance

This is the big round, right? This is the part of the fight we all tuned in to see. What are the two different platforms able to offer us gamers in terms of those all-important frame rate figures?

Overall, this is a straight win for Intel. The Coffee Lake architecture’s superior single-core throughput allows it to deliver the highest frame rates across the board, almost no matter which iteration of the Intel technology you’re using.

There are games, such as Doom when running in Vulkan mode, and Rise of the Tomb Raider in DirectX 12 trim, where there is parity, but for the most part it’s all in Coffee Lake’s favour. Especially when you add in the modest frame rate the increased overclocking potential will net you.

Granted, your graphics card is going to be doing most of the grunt work at the highest resolutions, but surely you want a chip that’s going to be able to give your expensive GPU the best opportunity to shine, don’t you?

There’s also the fact the new Coffee Lake chips are finally upping Intel’s core-count game – arguably at the behest of AMD – and that means future titles that take advantage of such things will benefit Intel’s silicon as much as Ryzen.


AMD Ryzen vs Intel Coffee Lake – the verdict

AMD Ryzen

So, what we end up with is a rather unsatisfying draw.

There were no knockout blows on the part of either AMD or Intel, and no-one throwing in a red-stained white towel, or tripping over a spit-filled bucket either. The blood-thirsty might not be sated, but for the rest of it means our favourite gaming platform now has two different processor ranges that offer a huge amount of performance to us PC people, and that can only be a good thing.

If your PC use is more heavily weighted to the productivity side, where thread-count really is king, you’re probably better off picking a Ryzen machine, but if you’re a dyed-in-the-wool gamer then it’s Intel that really has you covered.

But we can’t really leave it like that. No-one likes a draw, so we’re going to have to take this to an independent adjudicator. And, because I run the hardware shizzle around here, that’s me.

So, no matter how much I adore and endorse the new Core i5 8400 as a great gaming CPU, you simple can’t buy the blasted things. And that’s got to mean that Ryzen takes the win.

Otaku,Cats lover and of course the founder of “When life gets hard.. just Watercool and OVERCLOCK !”
Otaku,Cats lover and of course the founder of “When life gets hard.. just Watercool and OVERCLOCK !”
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Otaku,Cats lover and of course the founder of "When life gets hard.. just Watercool and OVERCLOCK !"

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